A couple of people chose to read Hag-Seed for MARM this year, which reminded me of this discussion (which you can view, alongside) from the 2018 Stratford Festival Forum: In Conversation With Margaret Atwood—“The award-winning Canadian author, essayist, poet and activist returns to the Forum for a candid conversation with Artistic Director Antoni Cimolino.
For the first four weeks of MARM this year (first, second, third, fourth), I posted about writers whose early works garnered Margaret Atwood’s admiration and support. This week, I’m focussing not on the way that Margaret Atwood has engaged with the work of an emerging author, but the way in which she has engaged with a well-established author whose work overlaps and aligns, thematically and, to some extent, stylistically too. There have been instances in which writers have viewed the decision of other writers to tell stories that seem similar to their work as an affront, a challenge more personal than it was (likely) intended, rather than embraced the idea that varied points-of-view encourage problem-solving.
Many reviewers (and possibly publicists) referred to The Handmaid’s Tale in discussing Louise Erdrich’s Future Home of the Living God. The Canadian paperback edition is crowned with this declaration via the American NPR reviewer Maureen Corrigan: “A streamlined dystopian thriller…Erdrich’s tense and lyrical new work of speculative fiction stands shoulder-to-braced-shoulder right alongside The Handmaid’s Tale.”
Certainly in this conversation, Atwood as interviewer leaves a space for Erdrich to discuss just how wide-ranging her reading has been during the course of her lifetime (even though the editorial note that introduces their conversation also suggests that Atwood’s story was an influential factor in Erdrich’s work—Atwood doesn’t assume that Erdrich read The Handmaid’s Tale and thought Oh, I can do better than that).
Instead, here’s what Erdrich counts as influential:
“I loved Russell Hoban’s Riddley Walker and other books about social devolution. Kazuo Ishiguro’s Never Let Me Go (the loss of humanity with new developments in cloning). P. D. James’s The Children of Men (no babies at all). The Book of Joan, by Lidia Yuknavitch. Everything by Ursula Le Guin, including the world of Always Coming Home. Le Guin’s The Left Hand of Darkness is about sexual shape-shifting. I love the [Frank Herbert] Dune trilogy, which is about lineage and interbreeding on a desertified, jihad-wracked, earthlike world. Also: Octavia Butler. Lilith’s Brood is a visionary work filled with sensuous tension and dark humanity. Her series of novels—Dawn, Adulthood Rites, and Imago (all part of Lilith’s Brood)—is about what happens when humanity is rescued from annihilation by a race of gene-splicing aliens who fall in love with us.”
You can catch glimpses of all of these in Louise Erdrich’s Future Home of the Living God (2017).
In some ways, her dystopian novel is what you would expect: “This is how the world ends, I think, everything crazy yet people doing normal things.”
In other ways, it’s a story with particular relevance to indigenous readers: “Eddy tells me that his book is basically an argument against suicide. Every page contains a reason not to kill yourself.” [I’m immediately reminded of Tanya Talaga’s Seven Fallen Feathers.]
In some ways, it is dystopian: “…I haven’t done badly with being stuck indoors. Sometimes I’m good at living within limitations. Besides, after all is dark and silent in the street, we go out, all three of us.”
In other ways, it is about the present-day, a story about survivability, towards which indigenous people have had to strive, in the wake of and presence of genocidal policies and practices: “I really have no proficiency at simply experiencing the present. But since the past is so different from the future that to think back at all is like looking down the wrong end of a telescope, and since the future is so disturbing that to give in at all to my imagination is enough to cause a full-blown panic attack, it is really best for our mutual health if I stay focused on what is most immediate.”
What makes Erdrich’s novel particularly remarkable is the way that the structure of her story reflects and contains indigenous beliefs and philosophies.
It’s not uncommon to have dystopian stories consider matters of fertility and societal control of women’s reproductive capacity (and the link with present-day reality continues in the courts of southern U.S. states today).
“Exactly right—folded quietly and knitted in right along with the working DNA there is a shadow self. This won’t surprise poets. We carry our own genetic doubles, at least in part. What if some of those silenced genes were activated? I don’t know how, but what if they were? And they decided to restore us to some former physical equilibrium?”
But she works time and other concepts of time directly into the novel, in the context of the story exploring both the idea of a fetus’ development in a separate world, outside of time, and the idea of a fetus’ development in a separate world, OF time. This has a disorienting effect on the shape of the narrative:
“…I am lost in contemplation. I have that sense of time folding in on itself, the same tranced awareness I experienced in the ultrasound room. I realize this: I am not at the end of things, but the beginning.”
In the context of indigenous storytelling, many of these crafting decisions make sense. In the context of more mainstream dystopian stories, the arc feels distinctly different (Erdrich has enjoyed great success and has a mainstream publisher, but most of the fiction I’ve read that contains elements of indigenous mythology has been via independent presses).
So we have Cedar: “Turning around to the beginning. Maybe that’s not the same as going backward.”
And we have a mythological creature that reminds me of the water panther Mishibijiw (also a hybrid animal like the one Cedar sees flying in the trees, with wings and scales—a panther with scales, one of the most powerful creatures of the underworld, considered the counterpart of the Thunderbird, creature of the air).
We also have an ordinary story of grandmothers and lakes that freeze too quickly, of road trips and fractured relationships.
Like Ann Patchett and Alice Walker, like Stephen King and Michael Chabon, Margaret Atwood is one of those writers who speak as often about reading as they do about writing. (Both Louise Erdrich and Ann Patchett are also booksellers too!) The books they read nourish the words they write and the worlds they imagine. And, in this digital age, their recommendations swell our TBR lists and plans. This is how one story leads to the next.
And you? Have you read Louise Erdrich? Are you reading Margaret Atwood with MARM in mind?
My book group read Hag-Seed in November, and I didn’t re-read it because I only read it a couple of years ago. Then I was ill and couldn’t join in the zoom discussion, but I do think it’s brilliant.
Margaret Atwood ‘s range is broad, I have loved her dystopia as well as her literary fiction and short stories. Surely something for everyone, I haven’t really got to grips with her non fiction though.
At least you didn’t miss a conversation about a book you hadn’t already read–that might have been even more disappointing!
I think if one knows that she aims to produce a variety of work, it’s easier to see what she’s on about. But you’ve read and loved Alias Grace and pick up Oryx & Crake next, I can see where it’d be a little disorienting. Maybe the new collection of essays due next year will be an avenue for you to explore her non-fiction–I’m curious to see what’s included in it.
I still have not read her, but I will! This post makes me want to even more! I just have to get caught up on other things a little bit first. Hah! I just have to… I just… I just… I just…
Well, on the up-side, you will absolutely love the new book, which even has a delicious reading list in the back: The Sentence. (I’ve just finished.) There’s one aspect of the story that I’m not sure you will love (it’s not really a spoiler, it’s on the cover) but, were it not for that small uncertainty, I’d say it’s a contender for holiday-book-tokens…sooooo bookish.
That’s a great way of looking at it, and I’m very grateful for your response. I’m also encouraged to hear that you feel Atwood’s range is broad enough to cater for a wide variety of tastes.
Of the three books I’ve read so far, The Handmaid’s Tale is the one I admired the most. It’s clearly a brilliant, thought-provoking book, but I tend to find dystopian novels unrelentingly grim. That might seem a bit hypocritical coming from a fan of noir fiction such as myself; however, I can’t really rationalise it other than to say that dystopia feels further removed from reality than noir, although not completely outside of the realms of possibility, if that makes sense.
Anyway I’ll keep this response relatively short, as I’m experiencing some issues with my hands, but I’ll definitely keep your comments in mind. Many thanks for the response – you’re not being annoying at all!
Erdrich is on my list! perhaps a 2022 goal?
And by “goal” you mean a-quiet-plan-you-don’t-think-about-too-much-so-it-stays-fun-but-it-happens-next-year-between-January-and-Decmeber?
Just dropping by to say how much I admire your enthusiasm for Margaret Atwood and your commitment to hosting this reading month. Very impressive activities, and it’s great to see various readers joining in via their blogs and social media. Sadly though, Atwood is not for me. (We all have our own blind spots and personal preferences, otherwise we’d all be reading the same books, which would be nonsensical, right?) I’ve read two or three of her novels (mostly other people’s selections for book groups), and while I admire her skills as a writer, she’s not someone I particularly enjoy reading. Sorry…but I thought I ought to explain my absence over the last few weeks.
*passes plate of biscuits at closing MARM ceremonies* So nice to see you! Because you do identify skills you admire, I’ll risk being annoying and persist in my belief that you’ve yet to meet the work of hers that you can both admire and enjoy. She’s one of those writers who deliberately seeks a different challenge with each work. (Jane Smiley is another–can’t think of an English writer who has articulated this motivation-you? Smiley’s outspoken and sought to write one of each form, including an epic and a western, Atwood less overt and more prolific.) It’s an intention that frustrates readers who prefer writers to be consistent in voice or style, and explains how often readers love/rave about a single work of hers but not others. If you didn’t admire anything about the three you’ve read, I’d agree that you’re simply not a match, but I suspect there’s a match somewhere (maybe her essays, even, she does occasionally write on films) although there’s no reason to press towards that possibility either, because you have SO much other great reading ahead of you. So why risk being annoying? LOL So that if another of your bookgroups suggests her as a selection again, that you don’t despair? Maybe! So that someone else reading this, who has only read one and been disappointed, doesn’t give up? More that. A single disappointing read is like a bad first date…doesn’t mean you can’t be friends.
I’d hoped to read Hag-Seed for MARM this year but alas, my reading is just not what it once was! Although it is improving 🙂 Fascinating post – I’ve never read Louise Erdrich but I’ll look out for her now.
Somewhere recently I came across a character who said that they read a lot because they were sad. I’ve been where you are, and found my reading drop off, nearly entirely, in hard times. And this year, I went the other way, and fell harder than ever into books, to cope. I wonder what makes the difference. I recommend The Last Report on the Miracles of Little No-Horse, which was my starting point and was just as good on a reread. (There are some exceptionally beautiful bits about books.)
I read LaRose a few years ago and loved it so much I acquired several of Erdrich’s backlist. Naturally I haven’t read any of them yet!! But I have put one aside to take with me on our summer holiday in a few weeks time (trying not to count the days as it still feels too far away!!)
Thank you for your fabulous MARM posts this year, they inspired me to start one about MA’s last conversational tour of Australia just before Covid, in Feb 2020. Of course, it’s only a half formed idea and a half finished draft. Maybe next year’s MARM ?
Heheh Well, you’re not alone in the good-at-collecting-then-NOT-reading camp. Ironically, LaRose was the only one of her books that I didn’t write about here. Something about the timing; I just read it too quickly and didn’t take enough notes.
LOL You might be able to polish it off for next year’s MARM if you really concentrate. I completely understand; I still haven’t finished the collection of stories that I started for Australian literature month. This year is actually the first year that I fully understood it was be in November (Bill brainwashed me, as I persisted in thinking it was January), but I still didn’t manage to finish, let alone post.
I read THT years ago when it was first published… and when the Taliban took over in Afghanistan, I immediately thought that it was THT come to life.
So for anyone writing dystopias today, all they need to do is think of how the Taliban turned back the clock, and I think it is just as likely that they are drawing on that history than anything they’ve read.
It certainly stood out dramatically in the ’80s, didn’t it. There just wasn’t anything else like it (seemingly, but of course other women were writing challenging texts). I know not everyone in “your” corner of the world is as obsessive about following American politics as Bill, but I think the developments of recent months in Texas, regarding women’s reproductive freedom in the United States, are even more readily identifiable with Handmaid’s. Sobering to understand that the effort to overturn Roe v. Wade has been underway for decades, in small increments, and to know that more than twenty states will have their legislation overturned in an instant, once the next step is secured, because all of the groundwork was laid in advance.
Interesting. I read Future Home back when it first came out and didn’t pay attention to any reviews or talk about it. I didn’t once think, oh she copied Atwood. Trying to control women and their reproduction is, as you note, not uncommon. So Erdrich writing a book that includes that is not unusual at all. I would pool it in with Handmaid’s Tale not because it is like Atwood’s book, but because of the controlling women’s bodies theme that would also include a raft of other books. I am in the holds queue at my library for Erdrich’s new book The Sentence. Looking forward to that one 🙂
It’s one of those cases where, I think, having more books like this on the shelf would counter the idea that only a couple exist as reference points. It sets up a scenario in which the books are in a kind of competition, as in “who can tell the future better”, instead of allowing each story to present an alternative future of the imagination, of a single writer’s speculation. Also in an effort to shelve them together, it’s easy to overlook that Erdrich’s narrative is immersed in her cultural worldview which, in this novel, directly impacts the decisions she makes with structure and story; I think many readers and even critics overlooked the elements of indigeneity of her narrative which fundamentally shape the arc, leading them to believe that she’d missed the mark, whereas they didn’t see where she was aiming. I’ve just started The Sentence: do you have yours?
My turn has not come up for The Sentence yet. I’ something like 149 in line. It’s going to be a while 🙂 She is very popular here given she has a bookstore in Minneapolis.
Wow, that IS a lot. Just a little under 200 waiting here, with a population that’s much higher! Minnesota is one of those states I keep moving around in my brain; I regularly forget that it touches on the existing border between the U.S. and Canada, with so many traditional territories bridging that dividing line too.
Yup, we are practically neighbors 🙂
It’s a 15-hour drive, apparently, coming through the States and not up and over the Great Lakes (a deceptively long trek), so, yeah, see ya for Solstice!